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Firstly, empirical evidence is for scientific theories, not for evidence of human nature gone wrong. Secondly, the fact is- young people are impulsive, so the solution to do nothing that Jack is implying is nonsensical. Jack you are very woke and showing some ignorance, please wake up!

After careful thought, TVNZ running this story as it was Labour's loss and Maori must be guided back to the herd.

Nah we don’t want New Zealand in, way too close with China, they would leak our info in a heartbeat.

Wow how things have changed in 3 months

Willie has no credibility. Aimless waffle ... almost incoherent at times. Needs to move on ... but he wont $$$

The gathering at Parliament today is just the first .. we will only get any change or genuine compensation by speaking out, more meetings/rallies/vigils, keep it before the public eye so it doesn't become a 9day wonder and then forgotten, and the public distracted by the usual political flimflam. We need all the support from caring kiwis that we can

Now there’s modesty. Willie knows he’s way more popular than Hipkins, but still says Chris is the most popular politician at the moment.

Hmm Jack tame interview (as we've come to expect from you) .. pre prepared questions for Judith? Believe the real problem is kiwis still have a "peacekeeper" military mindset. Totally unprepared for anything that cones close to protecting the country or its people. Time to wake up and invest, or remain militarily useless and a token force with no regional power or influence

Get rid of perpetual leases for maori land owners its honestly crazy how the ballheads are still keeping that law and saying that maoris have equal rights.... so they own the land its in their name but they can't get the land back or kick the llessors off UNLESS the lessor doesnt wan't to renew the contract(that was was forced on them by the government ) and then finally the landowner then can buy back the land thats already theirs at market price WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK ballhead logic racist by design and they will swear black and blue its not HA!

You are a legend Judith.

It's the way the system operates

Judith .... you've found your niche

Jackson is a scammer , if he wants something watch your belongings. He is talking garbage and if co governance has been around I would submit it has been another handbrake on NZs aspirations. Maori already have equity, they are wanting more. This is not democracy

❤ everyone understands that a broken bone puts you out of action for a while, and it heals within a set amount of time ❤ but what we don't understand is how a broken spirit mends, how long does it take to mend, how do we mend it? ❤ Every soul is unique ❤

Hi Jack, thank you for doing this interview ❤ to say that I enjoyed it, sounds kind of 🤮... but I was inspired to continue my journey upon the Healing Path. .What an arduous process for those two beautiful humane beings! They're truly Aroha Wairua ❤ Maybe the problem of adequate compensation for a Life despoiled by abuse and neglect should be laid at the feet of ACC. They pay up to $180,000 for Permanent Injury. I'm currently working on my second round of therapy and have been blessed with an excellent Therapist and ACC Case Manager! Yay! I've started the conversation about a Lump Sum Payment for permanent injury. To be fair on The System, there's a LOT to be taken into consideration for injury...the mental, emotional, physical problems a survivor, (if you're still walking and talking, you're a survivor) has as a result of parentals tearing off the flesh, sucking out the soul and gnawing on the bones of a child too young to understand that their boundaries have been laid waste, and they've been left for dead.. every interview with a health professional is stressful. Trying to communicate everything applicable in a non-confrontational way with a Stranger. I spent many years self medicating to try to salve wounds too ugly to contemplate. I understand now (after 3 years of cognitive behavioural therapy) that my parentals were absolutely messed up by being children during WW2. Then I researched back a bit further and discovered that their parents had been messed up by WW1 and the Spanish Flu. The other factor was poverty. Poverty of purse as well as spirit. Poverty has been a mindset in my whakapapa. My parents talked me out of attending University because it was "above my station in life". Lack of healthy food was also something that stunts development. If the parents don't have Aroha ~ Love, Support, Encouragement for their children, then how do their children pass it on to their children? This is a vicious cycle of the human species. In my Times of Meditation, I imagine my Aroha Wairua spreading out to embrace Our Mother Earth and all Her Children. I recommend Deep Breathing as an excellent way to calm the inner turmoil that's always present in One who's been abused. Because it's not healthy to hate forever. I also recommend Forest Bathing, truly connect with Nature to help heal the Soul. Lay your palm upon the trunk of the 1000 year old Tree, and feel the slow energy, you're part of this Life. Perspective. Something we don't speak enough about is the love and light that's stolen from the abused child. How does medical science quantify "loss of Love and Light"? This Matariki, I'll be remembering and mourning for Who I was, and celebrating Who I've become..my journey has been a long one. Maori isn't my birth culture, because the Romans took it away when they invaded Britain, but I grew up in Aotearoa New Zealand, in Turanganui-a-kiwa, Tairawhiti, and have found Maori culture as an Entrance back to honouring Mother Earth, Her Flora and Fauna, like my Ancestors did before we were subjugated by Rome. There's actually enough money in The System that there shouldn't be poverty. At all. There's no reason for war, either. Children are supposed to be individuals. We're all supposed to be individuals. Monoculture is anathema to Life. No masters, no slaves. Once the human species learns these things, then there'll be no more abuse and neglect. ❤ Love is the Law❤

Wow Judith minister of defence. Fascinating. Surprisingly exciting. Yeah we're so chilled.

She seems well embedded into her role. Lets hope she does good. She talks about all the right things it seems..

Sounds like ya typical national or even nz govt hypocrisy. She talks about their identity with their culture but then says they must pay for their consequences (which really should be highlighted to anyone and everyone) so really all that talk jack means alot contradicting irrelevance when relating that to crime of the youths. The Dept of Education is part to blame, a big part. The lack of appropriate punishment in the very poor justice system. And the equally useless CYF system with a colonial racist based govt they don't have a clue about human relations when they manage and run NZ like a statistcal bunch of numbers not ppl. I think she's another ladder toppling career climbing opportunist. Not to mention thez sinister ministers get shuffled around departmental portfolios before proving themselves. I think NZ is shit and it's govt. So flaws in the depts mean no changes in society and continuing problems hard and she doesn't seem like she will show no better promising outcomes. She sounds like a tralala yadayada. Prrrrrrr. Many maori parents are too young too dumb from the crap Education system they've bin raised in and throughout the generations. And the govt will always treat us like numbers on a production line. Boot camps are way overdue....Kp up the good work jack (TiakiTame)

Just how much evidence do you think we need to know what happens to kids in state care. History will repeat

Just a jack up, Karen makes good sense, Tame is just another woke twat making life as hard as he can. There are no perfect solutions to anything Tame, take your comb and go get a job mowing lawns...

We are just delusional lap dogs of america who are the biggest hypocrites and war criminals in the world , drones wont matter just look at america and all there invasions and they still cant win a war😂😂😂 ,biggest losers in the world 😂😂

Your great Winston

Woke Lame Jack Tame

The majority of ethnicity & culture amongst young is only current if practise is clearly seen in capa haka performances as for Polynesian cultural performance, however for pacific Polynesians language is our key identity if spoken within the homes. The real importance for youth family in general is better parental practise open honest communication for the family unit not dictatorship from a father head of the household which is the core problem do as I say not what he practice this behaviour was a factor then, when I was growing up. Lack of a father figure and a angry mother because of a abusive husband, and it's current today same shit just another failed generation hence why gang prospect life style just another escape into a evil gang recruit mentality that takes an advantage of a already broken soul. Military induction is a healthy lifestyle we males need healthy discipline and structure the opposition need to back off and allow this to take place because previous government intervention has failed and continue if bubble rap emotional instability systems stays in place.

Need more money for the military they give their lives for protecting Newzealanders.

Two thirds =a crap colture...end of .

Our farming through out the ages didn't need GMO so now modernfy our food source is pure satanic

What a simple man. My son was an implosive teen. He didn't break any laws because it was my job to teach him to regulate his actions. Its called parenting. Karen is talking about consequences for the children whose parents have failed them.

What a great woman.

As a person who has worked with this population alongside highly trained professionals (an area which as been highly under resourced for decades by both govt) I am dismayed that Ms Chhour has chosen to fund the least effective intervention which evidence clearly shows doesn’t work. Yet again this govt is ignoring decades of growth in knowledge base and choosing to tinker with an intervention from decades ago that had dismal outcomes. If Ms Chhour was that “caring” and informed there are far more effective interventions that could be transformative for youth and help break inter generational cycles. However they are expensive, take time, and require highly trained professionals which we have a shortage of. Like the ferries you are being sold worse than a “Toyota”. If Ms Chhour’s was talking with specialists (Psychiatrists/Psychologists/Paediatricians) she would be heavily exposed. These young people deserve need better.

Come on Jack, disingenuous interviewing, you know that legislating Oranga Tamariki to put the child’s interest first and actually doing that are very different. Good job Karen, any idiot can see you want the best for disadvantaged children, except Jack.

No-one wants to serve this military because the government are crooking the very people we serve🤌🙌💯

Jack it's not about multiple reasons it's about preventing what happening in the child's best interest and well being ask everyone who's been icare what they feel and you will know what Karen speaks is fact and truth it's in the flaws of staff and there needs to be ccountability on a governance level the government is accountability to all corporations so uphold the law 🤌🙌💯💯

Boot camps dont work. Children taken away from family doesnt work. Removing children and the sending them away from abusive family already happens. Parents and children arent aloud any contact. Its been happening for along time the taking of children. Its complicated and of coarse the child must come first. However every Maori child I know that was taken was no better off for it. Because Maori will always go home if they can. Korero of Maori in state care and some foster care is terrible and under reported. The South African woman, how sad. She asked for held. From a well supported religious community. Nice whare and yet it happens . Saying Maori are going to a safe happy loving home is sad. Any parent would want that. Support and syrengthening families is key. There is nothing out there if you ask for help. I know many maori who have felt overwhelmed ask for help and end up in a full on investigation and shamed. Why not promote ...its okay to ask for help before its to late. All nz suffer in silence. We all need to just care again about everyone no matter young , old or in between.

Karen is awesome

You can't keep these troubled teenagers roaming the streets causing more havoc. Boot Camp is a good idea. I'm sure each individual will get the Care Empathy Understanding and wrap around service they need. Just because it is called a Boot Camp doesn't mean it is a bad place for these individuals to go to. It will teach them a lot of good positive things to carry with them into the real world however there may have to be some discipline for ones that just don't want to change. Have to try this nothing else has worked.

Karen is a breath of fresh air in this role. Especially after the ideological nonsense of the previous government

Are you bleeding money to oz,😂😂😂.

Were bleeding capitail we earned. GE is not going to be embraced by customers. Science is a reductive hurbus thing that is damming humanity. They dont lead bg example, we value with our brain steam. I like science and id take this one , but look at the soil the air the water. Whats diong us in, ironic.

If Waitangi Tribunal says no, then yes, if yes, then no.

Well done Karen. You're on track.

get a real job Jack, ya presstitute

Judith Collins speaks well.She is forthright and straightforward.She is an asset. Jack Tame’s signature style of quick firing gotcha questions to unsettle those being interviewed did not work this time. Well done Judith your maturity and thoughtfulness for long term better outcomes for New Zealanders on display.

Corruption in the DNA

Jack doesn't know zip. How many kids has he raised? None to my knowledge, so why listen to he who has no experience?

LSV works better now as a volunteer programme. When it was directed or court mandated, it was a shocking poss poor behaviour for the types of children we’re talking about here. Having a military boot camp as part of the current YJ facilities which have been widely rrovreee as a failure and recommended to close. This lady is talking around in circles. Focuses on deterrents in media cos that’s what appeals to simple minds

NZ training with the IDF makes NZ complicit with the IDF Nazi like genocide in Gaza . Our returned service men from the two world wars will be shocked . Unbelievable makes a mockery of ANZAC day

"Conversations I've had around the country" is not gunna cut it chick.

Still no evidence Karen, no wonder you wouldn't front up to the Waitangi Tribunal. Anectdotal stories and "a couple" of situations is not the evidence Jack, or the WT are asking to SEE.

And Jack Tame, where is the empirical evidence that putting Maori children back under the care of Maroi, results in better outcomes? There is none! But there's plenty of evidence in our prison populations and infant deaths that suggest otherwise.